Ludwig Piano Serial Number Chart
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Once you know the name brand of your piano, you will need to find the serial number. Step 1: The serial number is usually found on the plate of the piano between the bass and tenor strings. It can also be found on the top of the piano when you open the lid on Upright Pianos. You are looking for a number like those shown here. When was this piano built? It is a Ludwig and has the serial number 102066. It is a Ludwig and has the serial number 102066. Kalyan matka number total chart. Each piano is manufactured with a unique serial number that is recorded for future reference of not only when it was made but also where. Discover your Piano’s Age and Country Of Origin with our 5 Star Accuracy Guide to ensure the quality and reliability of each result. Each piano is manufactured with a unique serial number that is recorded for future reference of not only when it was made but also where. Discover your Piano’s Age and Country Of Origin with our 5 Star Accuracy Guide to ensure the quality and reliability of each result. Many piano manufacturers placed serial numbers in a variety of places. Pianos also have other numbers printed on them such as part numbers and many other pianos do not have a serial number at all. Many pianos will have a 4, 5 or 6 digit serial number to identify the age of the piano. Piano World is often asked if a piano is valuable because it is an “antique”. The answer in most cases is no. Unlike say, a Chippendale writing desk or Tiffany lamp, an old piano is usually just that, an old piano.
Bösendorfer pianos are one of the most sought after brands of pianos in the world. They are known for their original piano works that include the innovation of both the outside and inside attributes of the piano.
Company History
Bösendorfer pianos (officially L. Bösendorfer Klavierfabrik GmbH) started in July 23, 1828 when Ignaz Bösendorfer registered his small business as an official piano maker in Vienna.
Since the time of its founding, Bösendorfer was already known and respected to produce such a high quality piano, that in 1830 the company was announced to be the official piano maker to the Emperor of Austria.
In 1859, Ignaz’s son Ludwig took over and operated from new properties and locations in 1860. The company was sold to Carl Hutterstrasser in 1909, who was then succeeded by his sons Alexander and Wolfgang in 1931.
In 1966, the Jasper Corporation (later renamed Kimball International), parent company of Kimball Pianos took over Bösendorfer where it remained for 36 years before returning to Austrian hands after being purchased by BAWAG PSK Gruppe in 2002. On 20 December 2007, BAWAG signed an agreement selling all stock in Bösendorfer to Yamaha Corporation.
Noteworthy Characteristics and Models
Boesendorfer is known to produce the unusual 92 and 97 key piano models aside from the conventional 88 key pianos.
The brand produces four series: the Standard Black Series, the Conservatory Series (designed for those who cannot afford the Standard Black Series), the Designer Models (most famous one is the Bösendorfer Swarovski Crystal Grand Piano) and their Special and Limited Editions (some of which includes models that can record and be linked to personal computers).
Notable People Who Chose Bösendorfer
As mentioned in the onset, the Emperor of Austria chose Bösendorfer as his official piano maker in the year 1830. Franz Liszt was among the earliest of musicians who chose Bösendorfer as his personal piano. Along with Liszt, Antonin Dvorák, Leonard Bernstein, classical recording artists Aldo Ciccolini, Peter Hill, Gerhard Oppitz, Moritz Rosenthal and several others, have chosen Bösendorfer as their 'piano of choice'.
Among the many popular recording artists who have chosen Bösendorfer are Brian May and Freddy Mercury of the band Queen, Bradley Joseph, Keith Jarret and Oscar Peterson who exclusively used Bösendorfer from 1977 until 2006.
Bösendorfer Pianos
Serial Numbers & Piano Age
Find the age of your Bösendorfer piano using the serial number chart found below:
1828 - 4
1830 - 200
1840 - 490
1850 - 3000
1860 - 5000
1870 - 6400
1875 - 8000
1880 - 9300
1885 - 10800
1890 - 12200
1895 - 13870
1900 - 15640
1905 - 17620
1910 - 19640
1915 - 21370
1920 - 22530
1925 - 23880
1930 - 25350
1935 - 25700
1940 - 26290
1944 - 26730
1950 - 26960
1955 - 27490
1960 - 27900
1965 - 28434
1970 - 29109
1975 - 30622
1980 - 33444
1985 - 37445
1990 - 41062
1995 - 43374
2000 - 45150
2003 - 46690
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Please note, this article was written back in 2009. While the main points are still valid some of the prices will have changed.
To help you determine the value of your piano.
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Much of the information here is from The Piano Book by Larry Fine
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How Much Is It Worth?
Ultimately, something is worth only as much as someone will pay for it. Piano prices vary greatly depending on the locale and the particular situation.The value of a piano also depends very much on how knowledgeable the seller and potential buyers are. For every piano, there is what I would call an “informed value” and an “ignorant value.” The informed value takes into account the technical quality and condition of the piano, whereas the ignorant value does not, being based primarily on how the piano case looks (if even that). Unfortunately, the ignorant value is more often than not what the piano actually sells for.
Let the buyer beware
In most private transactions, the seller hasn’t the foggiest notion of what the piano is worth, and the asking price is vastly over-inflated, often based on such considerations as that “Uncle Joe liked this piano, and he played all his life, so it must be a fine instrument.” In these cases, there’s plenty of room for negotiating. If the piano needs considerable repair, encourage the technician to tell you this in front of the seller, as it will better your bargaining position. Even where the seller knows the informed value of the instrument, the asking price is usually set high in the expectation of bargaining, and you can generally expect to agree at a price of from 10 to 30 percent less.
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Pricing
The list on the next page shows the approximate selling prices of various ages, makes, and types of piano, gathered by Mr. Fine from his contacts around the country. Twenty-five technicians returned a questionnaire in which they listed the average low and average high selling prices (not asking prices) in their area for the pianos described here. The pianos were said to be in salable condition, and, unless otherwise noted, were for sale by a private owner, were not rebuilt, and were not Steinways.
This list was compiled in 1986 for the first edition and has not been updated, however it should still be a good general guide.
For a more comprehensive up-to-date list of prices of current pianos, check out www.PianoBuyer.com
Product Description;
The latest supplement to the pianist’s must-have reference The Piano Book, this comprehensive guide provides list prices for more than 4,000 currently manufactured acoustic and digital piano brands and models, as well as advice on how to estimate actual street prices to help negotiate the lowest possible price.
But It Is An Antique!
Piano World is often asked if a piano is valuable because it is an “antique” . The answer in most cases is no. Unlike say, a Chippendale writing desk or Tiffany lamp, an old piano is usually just that, an old piano.
While restoring a fine piece of furniture usually involves a craftsman restoring the finish, this would only be the starting point with a piano. The piano is a complicated mechanical marvel involving thousands of moving parts, all of which are subject to wear and deterioration. Restoring these many parts to their original condition is a major undertaking for a skilled piano technician, requiring many, many hours of labor. And even this is sometimes not possible due to the lack of available replacement parts.
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Should I Invest the Money?
The following is from a discussion on our Piano Forums …
Hello,
From reading other posts I take it that it is not worth the money or time to restore an old upright. My piano is a 1898 Weber. It is in excellent condition. I bought it at the Salvation Army for fifty dollars.Should I spend more and get it restored? Thanks!
It depends on what you want. As it stands the piano is probably worth between $0 and $500 and all components have considerable wear. Assuming that the basic structure such as pinblock, soundboard, and bridges are sound, you could spend perhaps about $2500 to $2800 for partial rebuilding and have the piano restrung, have new hammers, damper felt, and bridle tapes put on the action, and have the keys rebushed. If the other action parts such as hammer butts, shanks, and whippens are in fairly reasonable condition and not becoming brittle with age that’s the minimum to get you a musical instrument that will probably sound very good and play decently.Because of the wear that’s certain to exist in the other action parts it won’t be a piano that can be perfectly regulated or will feel and play like a new piano. If you had to sell it with some effort you might be able to get $1500 for it. If you went the whole distance and had the action fully rebuilt with all new parts you would probably end up spending about twice the previous estimate. Then if you want add in about $1800 to get the case refinished.
By the time you are done you would have a really nice vintage upright piano, but that money would also buy you a really nice new upright. After doing all that if you had to sell the piano you would never get anywhere near what you put into it out of it. That might give you some idea why old uprights such as this almost never get rebuilt. One last comment: you say the piano is in excellent condition – how do you know?
Niles Duncan
Piano rebuilder, Pasadena, CA
Get the Tuner
Although it is possible to find a piano built over 60 years ago that is still in reasonable playing condition, we would recommend enlisting the opinion of a qualified piano tuner/technician before investing in one, and the price should reflect the fact that it is an old piano. The period from 1900 to 1930 was the heyday of piano manufacturing during which many fine instruments were being built. A piano from this period that has been well maintained, or is in restorable condition, might be a good purchase (have a piano tuner check it out for you before you invest your money).
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Don’t be Square
In particular, we recommend staying away from the “square piano” also known as a “square grand”. These instruments were really a rectangular box and were often very ornate, however, they were poor musical instruments even when they were new and most piano tuners refuse to even attempt to work on them. If you insist on buying a square piano, you should look at it strictly as a piece of furniture.
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